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>> there's no doubt mitt romney had the night of his political night. he had to have the night he had last night. i can't think of a debate in the 20 years covering this where the gap between the two candidates was this wide. mitt romney turned in a strong performance and the president turned in an uneven performance. the disparity led to a perception that president obama lost the debate. if you look at the commentary, not from the right, but people who love barack obama, almost every one of them, every pundit was saying that he lost. some saying he lost decisively. some saying he lost so badly, it could cost him the election. to me, it's hyperbolic. it speaks to the fact mitt romney changed the narrative of the campaign. >> what does it mean, jim, for mitt romney. if we accept he won the night last night, how does he make it about more than one night and a turning point in the campaign? >> i can't emphasize how big last night was for mitt romney. you have to view it from the mitt romney that came into the debate. conservatives were down on him. his sta
>> there's no doubt mitt romney had the night of his political night. he had to have the night he had last night. i can't think of a debate in the 20 years covering this where the gap between the two candidates was this wide. mitt romney turned in a strong performance and the president turned in an uneven performance. the disparity led to a perception that president obama lost the debate. if you look at the commentary, not from the right, but people who love barack obama, almost every one...
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that's what romney did last night. every time obama said you have a $5 trillion tax cut, he said no i don't. the truth is we don't know what it is. as he's running for president, i think it's information that we're frankly entitled to. >> let me play another clip. the president criticized romney for a lack of specifics in the tax plan and wall street reform and health care. that's how that went down. >> my experience as a governor is if i come in and lay down a piece of legislation and say, it's my way or the highway, i don't get a lot done. what i do is the same way that tip o'neal and ronald reagan worked together some years ago. when ronald reagan ran for office, he laid out the principles that he was going to foster. >> so it's about principles, not actual hard plans. in a million years did you ever think that a victory could come out of this debate base odd vagueness? i ask that because knowing in we knew all of the weapons both could quite honestly use and weapons the moderator would have available to press both
that's what romney did last night. every time obama said you have a $5 trillion tax cut, he said no i don't. the truth is we don't know what it is. as he's running for president, i think it's information that we're frankly entitled to. >> let me play another clip. the president criticized romney for a lack of specifics in the tax plan and wall street reform and health care. that's how that went down. >> my experience as a governor is if i come in and lay down a piece of legislation...
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the romney campaign distanced itself from the video saying it had no involvement with the release. paul ryan speaking about a moral tipping point in united states, six months before romney's 47% remark. >> before too long we could become a society we were never, ever intended to be. we could become a society where the net majority of americans are takers, not makers. today 70% of americans get more benefit from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. you could argue that we're already past that tipping point. the good news is, survey after survey, poll after poll, still shows that we are a center right 70/0 country. 70% of americans want the american dream. they believe the american idea. only 30%en watt their welfare state. what that tells us is at least half of those people currently in that category are there not of their wish or their will. >> ryan's comment were part of the keynote address at a gala dinner hosted by the american spectator. that was in november 201, ten months ago, well before he was considered to be a vice presidential running mate.
the romney campaign distanced itself from the video saying it had no involvement with the release. paul ryan speaking about a moral tipping point in united states, six months before romney's 47% remark. >> before too long we could become a society we were never, ever intended to be. we could become a society where the net majority of americans are takers, not makers. today 70% of americans get more benefit from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. you could...
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was last night a good night for mitt romney? yes, it was. bad night for obama? sure. did the president blow a chance to deliver a knockout punch? you better believe it. but really, everything is going to be okay. sure, the president looked bored and defensive, but he didn't say anything sound bitable. he didn't sight, he didn't check his watch, didn't answer in detached and aloof fashion a question about somebody raining and killing his wife. he was not shocking, he was -- i suspect the goal of the night was actually to be mhh and live to fight another day. it's not the greatest strategy i have ever heard but it's not a campaign-ending strategy. we've still got three more debates to go. the next one is next week and it's between joe biden and paul ryan. joe's not going to be afraid to throw some punks around and combat the deceptions about taxes, medicare, social security, and the rest. and the president himself has two more chances to meet romney on the debate field of battle. you can bet that the passive note scribbling guy that showed up last night is not going to
was last night a good night for mitt romney? yes, it was. bad night for obama? sure. did the president blow a chance to deliver a knockout punch? you better believe it. but really, everything is going to be okay. sure, the president looked bored and defensive, but he didn't say anything sound bitable. he didn't sight, he didn't check his watch, didn't answer in detached and aloof fashion a question about somebody raining and killing his wife. he was not shocking, he was -- i suspect the goal of...
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>> last night romney who spent long hours preparing for tomorrow's debate said the stakes are greater than simply crowning a winner of the debate. >> people want to know who's going to win? who's going to score the punches and who's going to make the biggest difference and the arguments they make, and there's going to be all the scoring of winning and losing. you know, in my view, it's not so much winning and losing or even the people themselves, the president and myself. it's about something bigger than that. these debates are an opportunity for each of us to describe the pathway forward for america that we would choose. >> the president meanwhile spent most of the day yesterday preparing for the debate. at his nevada campaign headquarters. taking a break to deliver pizza to one of the local campaign offices. he then started working the phones to thank volunteers. >> that was very nice, you know. you know, although basically they're keeping me indoors all the time. it's a drag. they're making me do my homework. >> also in henderson, nevada, last night, just eight miles away from wher
>> last night romney who spent long hours preparing for tomorrow's debate said the stakes are greater than simply crowning a winner of the debate. >> people want to know who's going to win? who's going to score the punches and who's going to make the biggest difference and the arguments they make, and there's going to be all the scoring of winning and losing. you know, in my view, it's not so much winning and losing or even the people themselves, the president and myself. it's about...
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the romney of last night or the romney of the past two months? >> this has to give him a lift, right? >> yeah, a lift, the confidence that he didn't have before, perhaps. we'll see. >> jim vandehei, thanks so much, jim. we'll talk to you later. >> take care. >>> coming up next, it only took them 162 games, but the oakland a's last night caught up and passed the texas rangers. >> that's unbelievable. moneyball. >> capturing the a.l. west title on the final day of the season. we'll have that and the rest of the playoff picture in sports. >> the red sox almost did that last night. >>> before we get to sports, let's check in with music city, usa, where it's 5:38 in the morning. jon meacham, are you still awake and with us? >> oh, hey. >> good. jon, where's lunch today? if i were you, i'd go to rotier's or loveless, but your call. >> i'm a longtime rotier's fan. the other is ledbetter's. >> don't forget, rotier's has american cheese and crackers as their lead appetizer. >> ritz. that's the difference. that's the difference. think of the markup on that
the romney of last night or the romney of the past two months? >> this has to give him a lift, right? >> yeah, a lift, the confidence that he didn't have before, perhaps. we'll see. >> jim vandehei, thanks so much, jim. we'll talk to you later. >> take care. >>> coming up next, it only took them 162 games, but the oakland a's last night caught up and passed the texas rangers. >> that's unbelievable. moneyball. >> capturing the a.l. west title on the...
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. >> i've seen mitt romney do this before. he's going to come in wednesday night. he's going to lay out his vision for america. he's going to contrast what his view is with what the president's record is. the president's view for the future. this whole race is going to be turned upsidedown come thursday morning. >> oh, but the question is to zing or not to zing? word on the street is mitt romney has been practicing zingers since august. the kind of zinger that resonates, like when lloyd benson said to dan quayle, you ever know jack kennedy? of course, benson lost. as for president obama, though, his camp says there will be no time for zingers. >> governor romney, he's a good debater. i'm just okay. but what i'm most concerned about is having a serious discussion about what we need to do to keep the country growing and restore security for hard working americans. >> but not in a smug, elitist, arugala loving way. at least that's what his advisers are hoping. there will likely be a lot of talk by president obama about romney's 47% quote and from romney about the stag
. >> i've seen mitt romney do this before. he's going to come in wednesday night. he's going to lay out his vision for america. he's going to contrast what his view is with what the president's record is. the president's view for the future. this whole race is going to be turned upsidedown come thursday morning. >> oh, but the question is to zing or not to zing? word on the street is mitt romney has been practicing zingers since august. the kind of zinger that resonates, like when...
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>> well, "saturday night live" was great. >> it's monday. you're late. >> pretty good booking, big bird. mitt romney wants to shut down pbs. big bird. it was pretty nice. the big thing was they got to the bottom of why president obama maybe did poorly. >> really? >> it had something to do with the fact that he forgot a wedding anniversary gift. >> really? actually, never. i haven't. i personally have not forgotten any wedding anniversary gifts. >> unfortunately guys are not perfect. we're imperfect animals. >> so what happened during "saturday night live"? >> let's look at the clip. >> yeah. the anniversary gift. i can't believe i forgot the anniversary gift. okay. i'll be out of here by 9:00 local time. i have the secret service directing me while i hit the hotel gift shop for an anniversary gift. a denver broncos sweatshirt. the hotel had nice bath clothes for sale. that could be good. >> excuse me, governor, mr. president -- >> i'm sorry. yeah. yeah. what's up? >> mr. president, governor romney has just said that he killed osama bin laden
>> well, "saturday night live" was great. >> it's monday. you're late. >> pretty good booking, big bird. mitt romney wants to shut down pbs. big bird. it was pretty nice. the big thing was they got to the bottom of why president obama maybe did poorly. >> really? >> it had something to do with the fact that he forgot a wedding anniversary gift. >> really? actually, never. i haven't. i personally have not forgotten any wedding anniversary gifts....
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join us tomorrow night at 11:00. senator rand paul will be joining us. here it, is your moment of zen. >> creed front man scott staff on why he's switching his vote from obama to romney this time. >> my heart and soul would really love someone like reagan. y captioning sponsored by comedy central captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org
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they will tune in on wednesday night. when they do governor romney will lay out his vision for a better and greater america for greater opportunity for all of our citizens. i think that's when you will see this race start to tighten and then move in governor romney's direction. come thursday morning, the entire narrative of the race will change. >> congressman paul ryan was pressed to explain the republican approach to tax policy during an interview yesterday. >> you're the master of the budget. briefly, let's go through the plan. the obama camp says independent groups say if you cut those tax rates for everybody, 20%, it costs $5 trillion over ten years. true? >> not in the least bit true. look, this just goes to show if you torture statistics enough, they'll confess to what you want them to confess to. >> how much does it cost? >> it's neutral. >> we'll get to the deductions. the cut in tax rates. >> lowers all americans tax rates. >> how much does that cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> it's not revenue neutral unless i
they will tune in on wednesday night. when they do governor romney will lay out his vision for a better and greater america for greater opportunity for all of our citizens. i think that's when you will see this race start to tighten and then move in governor romney's direction. come thursday morning, the entire narrative of the race will change. >> congressman paul ryan was pressed to explain the republican approach to tax policy during an interview yesterday. >> you're the master...
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it is debate night in america, less than 11 hours until president obama and governor romney face off with their first presidential debate. cnn's live coverage begins at 7:00 p.m. eastern. >>> turning to the economy, new data from payroll firm adp shows the private sector added 162,000 jobs last month. and while that beat forecasts it a slowdown from august. the adp data is closely watched as it is released just before the government's jobs report, which is due out friday. >>> american airlines says it is now inspecting 47 of its boeing 757s after reports seats came loose on three flights on two planes. at least 36 of those planes have now been inspected. six planes have improperly installed seats. the airline blaming clamps for the problem. >>> tragedy along the arizona border where this man, you see him right behind me, nicholas ivie became the third border patrol agent to die in the line of duty this year after he was shot and killed. they're searching for a suspect this morning. joe johns joins me now. so, where do things stand in the manhunt? >> reporter: right now this case is s
it is debate night in america, less than 11 hours until president obama and governor romney face off with their first presidential debate. cnn's live coverage begins at 7:00 p.m. eastern. >>> turning to the economy, new data from payroll firm adp shows the private sector added 162,000 jobs last month. and while that beat forecasts it a slowdown from august. the adp data is closely watched as it is released just before the government's jobs report, which is due out friday. >>>...
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at a san francisco fund-raiser last night, president obama himself once again drew attention to mr. romney's plan to cut government funding for pbs. >> for all you moms and kids out there, you should have confidence that finally somebody is cracking down on big bird. elmo has been seen in a white suburban. he's driving for the border. oscar is hiding out in his trash can. we're cracking down on them. governor romney's plan is to let wall street run wild again but he's going to bring the hammer down on sesame street. >> the obama campaign now featuring big bird in a new tv ad out this morning. this is from the obama campaign. >> i'm barack obama, i approve this message. >> bernie madoff, ken lay, dennis kozlowski, criminals, gluttons of greed and the evil genius who towered over them? one man has guts to speak his name. >> big bird. >> big bird. >> it's me, big bird. >> big, yellow, a menace to our economy. mitt romney knows it's not wall street you have to worry about, it's sesame street. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. >> mitt romney, taking on our enemies no matter where
at a san francisco fund-raiser last night, president obama himself once again drew attention to mr. romney's plan to cut government funding for pbs. >> for all you moms and kids out there, you should have confidence that finally somebody is cracking down on big bird. elmo has been seen in a white suburban. he's driving for the border. oscar is hiding out in his trash can. we're cracking down on them. governor romney's plan is to let wall street run wild again but he's going to bring the...
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just be mitt romney and he'll have a good night. >> we will hear about the 47% from barack obama tonight. he will bring that up. i think mitt romney will bring this up in the debate, something that was spoken yesterday in charlotte, north carolina by our dear friend joe biden. >> the romney/ryan tax plan will raise taxes on middle class families with a child, one or more children, by an aadditional $2,000 a year. all kidding aside with all the boos we can stop that malarkey. this is deadly earnest. how they can justify raising taxes when the middle class has been buried the last four years, how in lord's name can they justify? >> god bless him. >> has anybody told him the middle class has been buried? >> i am being deadly earnest now. how anyone can attempt to bury the vice president is beyond me. >> i got a good laugh out of it. >> you think we might hear the middle class has been buried. >> that is fresh and new and relevant. >> just look at the general mood of the country again which is difficult and the right and wrong track. the wrong track numbers is 53% thinking we are heading in
just be mitt romney and he'll have a good night. >> we will hear about the 47% from barack obama tonight. he will bring that up. i think mitt romney will bring this up in the debate, something that was spoken yesterday in charlotte, north carolina by our dear friend joe biden. >> the romney/ryan tax plan will raise taxes on middle class families with a child, one or more children, by an aadditional $2,000 a year. all kidding aside with all the boos we can stop that malarkey. this is...
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with flexpen®... say good night to vial and syringe. ask your doctor about levemir® flexpen. covered by 90% of insurance plans, including medicare. find your co-pay at myflexpen.com. >>> romney stopped at the restaurant in florida yesterday. he was posing for a group photo with the staff when one of the employees decided to help clean him up. he's already creating new jobs. at first he's like, oh, this is nice, then he's like, oh, okay. wait a minute now. and then he uses his hand to tap. okay. now we're going to push that out of the frame. >>> welcome back to "morning joe." a live look at the white house. as the sun comes up, time to wake up, everyone. mike barnicle and richard haass are still with us, msnbc.com's richard wolffe. and chief foreign affairs correspondent and host of "andrea mitchell reports," andrea mitchell. good to have you all onboard. >> let's start with the pew poll, the national pew poll. richard, there is a swing. it's 45 among likely voters before the debate. now we suspect that's going to be much larger. we can go on to the michigan poll shows we've g
with flexpen®... say good night to vial and syringe. ask your doctor about levemir® flexpen. covered by 90% of insurance plans, including medicare. find your co-pay at myflexpen.com. >>> romney stopped at the restaurant in florida yesterday. he was posing for a group photo with the staff when one of the employees decided to help clean him up. he's already creating new jobs. at first he's like, oh, this is nice, then he's like, oh, okay. wait a minute now. and then he uses his hand to...
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mitt romney became the leader of the republican party the other night. he did it by being rational, saying, okay, i want tax cuts. but i'm not going to pass tax cuts if it increases the deficit. and in massachusetts, i worked with liberals. every morning we got together and we got things done. it's like -- it's not the sort of warfare that many in my party and in the democratic party have glorified over the past 10, 15 years. i thought mitt came temperamentally at least to the middle, and it seems like he's -- i think ross is right. he's the new leader of the republican party. >> he demonstrated leadership on the ticket, not only is his name first on the ticket, but when asked about paul ryan's plan, he indicated that i'm the leader on this ticket, and we're going to follow what i want to do, one. two, you're going to hear leading republicans who have disagreed with him, those in the congress, in the senate who have insisted that no revenue be a part of any long-term spending control bill in the congress. none of them have said a word. as a matter of fac
mitt romney became the leader of the republican party the other night. he did it by being rational, saying, okay, i want tax cuts. but i'm not going to pass tax cuts if it increases the deficit. and in massachusetts, i worked with liberals. every morning we got together and we got things done. it's like -- it's not the sort of warfare that many in my party and in the democratic party have glorified over the past 10, 15 years. i thought mitt came temperamentally at least to the middle, and it...
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on wednesday night it might be risky for romney not to take risks, but what can he do? he might add to his policies by embracing, say, breaking up the largest banks, the sound policy that would subvert the -- but not good venues for explaining anything, actually. but especially not new initiatives. and october is a time for summations to the jury, not new submissions of evidence. you agree? >> i agree with that completely. i think the idea of romney going out there and saying let's break up the big banks, i think it would not help him. i think his -- apart from what howard and john have said, i think his challenge is he's got to deal with this 47% problem. he's got to somehow walk back from that and convince people he actually cares about all of america. that's his job as well as humanizing himself. i think the moderator and president obama are going to be desperately trying to get this guy to be specific about what it is he wants to do. not only does he change positions, but right now, he won't say what he wants to do about tax loopholes, and medicare, and if i were th
on wednesday night it might be risky for romney not to take risks, but what can he do? he might add to his policies by embracing, say, breaking up the largest banks, the sound policy that would subvert the -- but not good venues for explaining anything, actually. but especially not new initiatives. and october is a time for summations to the jury, not new submissions of evidence. you agree? >> i agree with that completely. i think the idea of romney going out there and saying let's break...
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by mitt romney would do on wednesday night. that would tighten it in ohio. it would tighten it in north carolina. probably go ahead in north carolina. it would tie it in iowa, probably tie it up in iowa. that's why you can't buy your way out of this mess the romney campaign is in right now, but you can outdebate them. >> more than anything else what seemed to have happened in august was democrats got enthused by their convention more than republicans did. the latest polling shows the enthusiasm gap coming back towards republicans. a git debate could juice that nationally among republicans. >> the people going out to vote is still pretty close. >> they need to turn the page. >> the polls in these swing states, and if i dismissed every other poll but local polls, fox news polls and what the romney people are saying their polls are showing, mitt romney's in trouble. again, if you just look at the locals polls, the fox news polls and the polls that the romney team has internally, mitt romney's in trouble right now. that can all cha
by mitt romney would do on wednesday night. that would tighten it in ohio. it would tighten it in north carolina. probably go ahead in north carolina. it would tie it in iowa, probably tie it up in iowa. that's why you can't buy your way out of this mess the romney campaign is in right now, but you can outdebate them. >> more than anything else what seemed to have happened in august was democrats got enthused by their convention more than republicans did. the latest polling shows the...